Choose the right battlefield

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one

Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

It is not a waste of time to try to pull people out of the Covidian cult. We can pick them off the herd individually. It will take time. Some methods are more efficient than others.

There’s no point bickering over what has already come to pass. Rather, our goal should be to start from today and work towards returning to sanity as soon as possible. That might not be a full-scale soul searching about all that went wrong. More likely, we will have to satisfy ourselves with a return to normality and an embarrassed, historical deep-filing of the whole episode, like the interning of Germans during WWI.

Covid will end when the headlines end.


Don’t bother debating those still in the full flight of panic. Wait for the right moment: someone wavering in their support for the latest tyrannical policy, someone who assured you last month that it would all be over once 80% are double-jabbed, the frustrated person who’s finally had it.

If you’re arguing all the time, you’re arguing too much and with too many people.

Battleground 1: vaccine mandates

Choose the right battleground even if that means ceding ground. We’re trying to change minds, not prove to ourselves we’re cleverer than someone else.

Fighting over the safety and efficacy of vaccines is to fight with a cliff face at your back. If better vaccines are developed, or (more likely) if your interlocutor thinks that any level of efficacy for any period of time is worthwhile, where do you fall back to? Plus, they will be highly motivated to believe in their efficacy due to having been vaccinated themselves.

In any case, the issue is not high ground because it doesn’t matter if someone else chooses to get vaccinated. That’s their decision.

Quibbling over whether or not the shots should be called vaccines is to get bogged down in a strategically unimportant position.

Every battle consumes resources. To fight a meaningless battle in one place necessarily detracts from fighting a more important one elsewhere. That is what the term ‘choose your battles’ means. The more you argue, the less people will listen to you, so hold your peace and wait for the moment you have someone’s attention, then make it count.

The most advantageous battlefield is vaccine mandates. Here you have the momentum of liberal precedent while your interlocutor has behind him the steep, muddy slope of other potential mandatory treatments like universal flu shots, circumcision, or compulsory antiretrovirals for AIDS patients.

The pro-mandate side also risks alienating their tribal allies like BLM. Despite the New York Times rhetoric, vaccine hesitancy is much stronger in ethnic minorities than it is among the Deplorables.

Do not hesitate to use the divisive wedge of ethnic politics or to make hasty alliances with former rivals when beneficial. In a multicultural society, all politics is ethnic politics and those who learn to play the game, win.

Here it is worth ceding ground even if you don’t want to, i.e.: ‘I’m all in favour of vaccines, I’d get one myself if I hadn’t already had Covid, I just think people should give informed consent. And anyway, people will dig their heels in if you try to force them. Give them a choice and most will come around.’

If you can’t change minds, instead ask how many shots are reasonable to demand. Two? Three? Four? Remind them of this when the inevitable comes. As the mandated boosters start to pile up, more and more will see the light and peel off the pack. Time is on our side with this one.

Battleground 2: lockdowns

This makes a good field of battle because here one can avoid the long grass of vaccine efficacy or how dangerous Covid really is.

However, arguing about previous lockdowns is fighting uphill. The enemy has already seized that high ground and we can’t travel back in time to fix it. Further, those who supported and suffered for previous lockdowns will have an ego-involvement in defending them.

A downward slope of advance is to say, ‘We’ve locked down for long enough. If we keep going with them now, they’ll go on forever. We’ve got the vaccine, hospitals have had plenty of time to prepare. We need to get on with our lives or people are going to start dying from stress, missed treatments and that sort of thing. We threw everything and the kitchen sink at it, more than we’ve ever tried for any other disease in history, but now we have to accept it’s here to stay no matter what we do and move on.’

Note again that this argument deliberately cedes a lot of ground. You have to do this if you want to make inroads. Belligerence never works.

Be prepared for a big push for new lockdowns once vaccines start losing efficacy some months down the track. Hold people to their word: ‘You said we should only lock down until 80% are vaccinated. Now we’re up to 85%. This was always going to happen and here it is.’

If they still insist upon the necessity of further lockdowns, try to pin them down on what criteria would mean they could end. If they say something vague like, ‘When it is safe to do so,’ remind them that Covid will probably be around for decades or longer. Try to get them to say the word ‘forever’. Even if they support it, saying the word ‘forever’ out loud may make them think about it a little more deeply.

I’ve never heard someone whose position logically leads to eternal lockdowns actually use the ‘f’ word. Make them.

There really are people who support regular lockdowns and mask mandates six months of the year from now until the end of time. At least you can figure out who they are and warn waverers of what they’re up against.

Battleground 3: Covid danger

This is a treacherous battlefield because most wear the mental armour of 18 months of media beat-ups. Choose your target wisely – only bother with a person who is already starting to have doubts.

The argument is best carried out as a feint. Send a link on IFR studies and say, ‘Is this right? Seems kind of low. Do you have any links showing higher figures?’ These they will not have.

Don’t fall into the trap of thinking that the logical strength of this argument will win every time. You’re coming up against thick, thick armour. You will most often get a vague answer like, ‘Yeah nah, sounds like a conspiracy theory, there are other figures that say it’s way higher,’ but no actual links.

Don’t expect much with this line of attack unless they’re already halfway there.

A partial victory is a victory

It is unlikely that someone who is triple-vaccinated and double-masked despite being young and healthy will suddenly decide that the virus is so minor in the grand scheme of things that it was all a crock of shit from the start. That is not how people act.

Our thinking changes in increments. My own ideas on various issues have followed this pattern, as long-time readers may have noticed.

However, you might talk someone down from ‘lockdowns forever!’ to ‘lockdowns until everyone who wants a vaccine has had a chance to get one’. That’s reasonable, though keep in mind that they’ll start to panic and backtrack on this when cases and deaths rise again, as they must.

Someone might go from supporting mandatory vaccines for everyone to just aged-care workers, or from mandatory masks everywhere to just in crowded, indoor spaces. Either is a good start.

As for the danger of Covid, a reasonable person might go from thinking it is extremely dangerous to moderately dangerous. If you can convince them that it’s about the same as the 1957-58 Asian flu, chalk one up for our side.

You might talk someone into merely agreeing that dissenting views should be heard even while they themselves remain steadfast in supporting all other restrictions and mandates. This may be a minority opinion in Australia at the moment so getting someone to support free speech they do not agree with would be quite a blow.

In fact, that may be the most difficult and important battle of all.

Bonus hint

Claiming that the clot-shots are a secret Gates program to wipe out 95% of the world population or that teeeechically Covid has not been proven to exist, is a lone and naked berserker charge. If you can’t even convince me of those things, what chance of convincing a Covidian? Although I guess they’ve already shown a disposition towards strong belief so you might have a chance.


Don’t expend too much energy banging your head against the Covid brick wall. I’ve wasted too much of my own time on it on this blog.

Disregard opinion polls. Almost everybody once supported slavery, witch burning and WWI. This is a long, incremental struggle.

Wait until there’s an opening, which won’t be often. Be moderate and concede far more ground than you think fair in order to retreat to the most favourable position, then present counterarguments gently as though you are not sure yourself, just thinking aloud. Spend a lot of time agreeing – ‘Yes, it’s a terrible virus. My friend’s barber’s grandma died of it’ – before slipping in any resistance.

It’s like music. A new style needs to be similar to existing styles so that the audience has a ‘hook’ to hang on to. You can go from punk to grunge but not from Gregorian chants to grunge. Find a ‘hook’ that fits with their existing ideas and only changes them a bit. A gateway concept, if you will.

I don’t know how long this will take – perhaps a few years – but eventually people will tire of restrictions and mandates. I’ve seen cracks already in the commentariat of Melbourne’s leftie newspaper, thus far diehard fans of any and every restriction imagined by our zealous rulers.

Until there’s an opportunity, the best strategy is Fabian. Save your energy, let time and frustration to do their work, and get on with your life.


  1. Kentucky Gent · 15 Days Ago

    IMO it is a waste of time to argue with liberals. And the reason for this is that liberalism is not really their politics, it is, in actuality, their religion.


  2. Nikolai Vladivostok · 14 Days Ago

    What do you think the death rate will be after two years?


    • Kiilgore Trout · 12 Days Ago

      How about now?
      Karl Denninger is calling for one in five hundred this Northern Winter.


      • lemmiwinks · 11 Days Ago

        I’m naturally skeptical of anecdotal evidence such as that in your link, but in this case I believe the data tends to support it, at least to some degree. Have you looked at the TGA database of adverse event notifications? There’s a lengthy list of reported side effects and more but the risks of dying as a percentage are still small (cold comfort if you die of course).
        Comirnaty (Pfizer): Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 26673 Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 203 (0.8%)
        Astrazeneca: Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 34390. Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 334 (1%)
        Spikevax (Moderna)[Only available since August 2021]: Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 5. Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 0
        Getting off track here, but interesting to compare,
        Government figures: 1421 reported covid deaths. (1.1% CFR*)
        Would be interesting to see figures on vaxxed but died from covid.
        Even accounting for adverse reactions being under reported and deaths from covid being over reported, 537 dead from vax vs 1421 dead from the illness it’s supposed to prevent is not a great ratio IMO.
        Having said all that, antibody dependent enhancement could be an issue but I think one in five hundred is pretty unlikely.

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        • lemmiwinks · 11 Days Ago

          Apologies, I was very tired (still am) when I wrote that. The percentages with the vaccines are utter nonsense – I calculated deaths as a percentage of reported adverse effects which is meaningless.

          Let’s assume 75% of NSW population ( 8,176,400 are jabbed = 6,132,300. No breakdown on individual vax so lump them all together, 537 dead out of 6,132,300 = 0009% vax fatality rate.


          • lemmiwinks · 11 Days Ago

            Argh!! 0.009% VFR.

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            • Kilgore Trout · 10 Days Ago

              Recently there was an advert on the Oz TV encouraging vaccination by giving the odds of an adverse reaction to the vax for Moderna and Phizer.
              This add disappeared suddenly…
              The odds given were 1/27,000 and 1/30,000 respectively, far HIGHER than the odds of Covid injury/death but get vaxxed!
              Forget percentages.
              Are you willing to trust your health to people who obviously don’t know what they are doing?


              • lemmiwinks · 10 Days Ago

                Oh hell no, I keep my own counsel in such matters. Hence, here I am at home since the health order prevents me from being at work. Strange days.

                Just gotta make it to December…


                • Nikolai Vladivostok · 10 Days Ago

                  If you have free time, perhaps you could start investigating online work, alternative careers, expatriation, whatever suits your circumstances.
                  The two Japanese characters for ‘crisis’ are ‘time’ and ‘opportunity’. I reckon a lot of people are going to land on their feet after this. We learn, we adapt.
                  Look at how China kung-fu flipped this pandemic from what ought to have been an event banishing them from the community of civilized nations, into almost every country praising and adopting their autocratic policies.
                  Maybe we could do something like that.

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  3. Kilgore Trout · 14 Days Ago



    • Liz · 14 Days Ago

      Like your Vonnegutesque handle.


  4. luisman · 14 Days Ago

    The MSM doctrine starts to change with the promotion of “please consider that COVID is going to be endemic”, which is the same as “forever”. The crazy totalitarian mass movement came from the idea, that COVID is the enemy and it can be beaten into oblivion. Then of course YOU as a non-believer are aiding and abetting the enemy, in the minds of the masses. Maybe “endemic” is an easier pathway to people understanding, that it’s going to be around forever.

    After ‘endemic’ has sunk in, more and more people will realize, that these war-like measures are not justified anymore. Since the cult leaders of the mass hysteria can’t give up (they are too afraid of the masses turning against them), it’s important to keep up the dissent. Because, if dissent disappears, atrocities will happen, like under Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc. You may think it’s a long way from excluding the unvaxxed from social life to camps and murdering them, but history has proven otherwise.

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    • Nikolai Vladivostok · 14 Days Ago

      I wonder what percentage of the population knows what ‘endemic’ means.


    • lemmiwinks · 14 Days Ago

      I *don’t* think it’s a long way from excluding the unvaxxed from social life to camps and murdering them, that’s why I’ve been so disturbed at what’s been happening, particularly in Australia. I would already have left if possible. Today though I spent a pleasant few hours with a group of adults, no QR code, hand sanitiser or *gasp* masks (outside of Australia it may be difficult to understand how exceptional this is). Only to discover late this afternoon that only the jabbed are permitted to attend my workplace as of Monday.

      I wonder what’s significant about Monday. A volunteer organisation which I suspect I will shortly no longer be a member of requires self reporting of vaccination status from Monday. I presume they’re not referring to my yellow fever vaccination.

      I’d hoped that the leadership change in NSW might have helped as Perrottet is the only party politician I have heard come out against medical apartheid. I suppose he has 18 months worth of intense conditioning and ludicrous policy decisions to contend with.

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      • luisman · 14 Days Ago

        I think it’s kind of funny, but I regularly talk with bargirls here in man-heaven. Although one of us or both are rather intoxicated, these simple people understand, that vaccinations are not protecting them from COVID, and some of them have seen people die after being vaxxed. Also, they don’t trust government, as we often do in the West, as they learn that gubmint is corrupt in their early teens.

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      • lemmiwinks · 12 Days Ago

        And now I know what is significant about Monday. The state has mandated that in NSW, unless you are double jabbed you don’t get to go to work, one jab doesn’t cut it. So if I go to work, I’ll be breaking the law and could be fined $1000. What an age we live in. Employers are obliged to provide working from home arrangements, but I am reluctant to reveal my hand by working from home, plus I can’t effectively do my work from there, however I don’t see that I have any alternative.

        You also can’t go anywhere (including people’s houses) except supermarkets, hardware stores and the like. Food service is take away only etc. As promised, it’s as mandatory as it can be – you will barely be able to function in Australian society without, jab, double jab, booster ad infinitum.

        Assuming I can’t get a medical exemption (quite likely I suspect, though I will make a Dr’s appointment first thing Monday), of the options available for me to “choose” I’m leaning towards Astrazenca since at least it’s not mRNA, though there’s a chance I may die from throbmosis. This persecution and coercion is starting to take quite the toll on my state of mind though, and rest assured, I will bear a lifetime grudge against all involved in forcing me to take treatment against my will.

        I’m curious to know people’s views though, is this the hill to die on? I’m more concerned with the long term effects of mRNA (hence Astrazeneca rather than Pfizer or Moderna) than I am graphene nanoparticles and 5G – mind control of the population has already very effectively been obtained via traditional methods so we can probably stick a pin in that argument. I’m more than a little skeptical about the mass kill theory, so let’s file that with 5G for now.

        Part of me wonders though if, Marek’s disease style, eventually you’ll end up dead because you don’t have the leaky vaccines. I think we’re looking at a classic example of the law of unintended consequences. Greedy pharma leverages covid for profit. Mass hysteria goes way further than they could possibly have imagined, most likely they were hoping for a year or two at most. Now knowingly or uncaringly they’re engineering a situation where lifetime boosters might actually be needed to survive.

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        • Nikolai Vladivostok · 12 Days Ago

          Sympathise with your shit situation.
          Your thinking is about the same as mine, although Eugyppius suggests the worst-case scenario of Marek’s disease is unlikely. Much of the Third World won’t get the shots for years; in places like the Congo, never. Some of them haven’t even had the polio shot.
          I don’t know what’s the hill to die on. Probably you’ll be fine but it’s the principle of the thing. In my own case I’m only 80% opposed to getting a shot, although this figure rises out of sheer bloody-mindedness at being forced, plus out of support for refuseniks. If it comes to the day I have to get the shot in order to fly out of here, I will have no choice because my visa will expire. That’s my ‘give-up’ point. I will get Jansen as that seems the least bad option. I know people who’ve gotten really sick from AZ and Sinovac, months-long pain or illness. My views are hardening now that I know real examples. So far no complaints from Jansen from people I know. I heard Novavax is coming to Oz, seems similar.
          My longer-term plan is to move somewhere with no mandates, masks, lockdowns, travel restrictions etc. because I’ve had a gutful and strongly suspect this nonsense will never end.
          I understand your grudge. I will never forgive or forget being locked out, nor the vast majority of people who supported it.
          Serious proposal: start a colony somewhere for disaffected Anglos, like the Germans in Paraguay. It’s extreme but we can’t live like this, and as Luisman said, it might get worse.

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          • lemmiwinks · 11 Days Ago

            Thanks Nikolai. Just goes to show, yesterday despite being in a fairly bad mood and poor frame of mind, I accepted an invitation from a friend though I really, really didn’t want to go. I just wanted to stay home and brood darkly. Lo and behold I bumped into two fellow refuseniks! I’m too cowardly to even bring it up normally, and I don’t recall how it came about in conversation but a couple of fit, healthy 20 somethings declaring resistance, showing me that I’m not alone, really helped a lot. I think this goes some way to explaining the drastic overreaction to even the mildest lockdown/anti forced vaccination protests. Even my friend who is vaccinated (and being over 65 probably should be) supports personal choice in this matter.

            One of them mentioned that we only have to make it until December 1 (until the goalposts are shifted again that is) and on checking: it looks like that’s correct. Reading that, QR codes, as previously stated by the government, are here to stay and venues will still be able to ask you to leave if you decline to provide vaccination status (legally you are allowed to decline, and legally they are also able to refuse service/boot you out). I will gird up my loins for this next round, Novavax is allegedly coming but who knows when it will get here. I agree that it seems to be the least worst.

            I like very much your idea of seceding from the world but it requires a strong enduring bond among the members such as you rarely find outside of religion, tribal or family lines. Plus that would likely throw up some serious red flags to multiple authorities. I thought that Denmark might be good as it appears to have recovered it’s sanity faster than most places, but language is an obvious barrier. I had toyed with the idea of going to their embassy to claim asylum from the Australian government but I was realistic about the probable outcome and other than a publicity stunt it would not likely serve much purpose. Publicity is the last thing I want.

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        • Kilgore Trout · 11 Days Ago

          The Federal govt has offered financial support for people who lose their jobs due to Mandates. Evidently when you log into the Mygov site the option is highlighted at the top of the screen. That’s all I got. Hope this helps. Good Luck.

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          • lemmiwinks · 11 Days Ago

            Stay strong (easier said than done) and good luck to you also!


  5. Georgiaboy61 · 14 Days Ago

    Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other. -Benjamin Franklin.


  6. Tim914 · 14 Days Ago

    A lot depends on where you live, obviously. Life’s not too difficult in the American Red State South where the Covid maniacs are outnumbered and kept in check by a conservative government. Masks are only worn in Doctor’s offices where I live, otherwise there are no restrictions of any kind. Any companies who force vaccinations would have a tough time recruiting replacement workers as the vaccination rate remains below 40%.

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    • lemmiwinks · 13 Days Ago

      Unfortunately in Australia with a high vaccination rate there is no such difficulty replacing workers.


  7. Kilgore Trout · 13 Days Ago

    Here in deepest, darkest Dantopia, ignorance is bliss.
    Fear is the currency oft the land.
    Logic is treason.
    I recently took up the cudgels with the CEO of a private organisation which provides disability care.
    I am a volunteer at one of their sites.
    They mandated the shot because “reasons’ These I shot down easily and even cited the Victorian Human Rights Charter implemented by Steve Bracks in 2006/8.
    I was immediately unpersoned without any notification.
    A few days later dan Fuhrer decreed mandates for the whole workforce of Victoria much to the relief of said CEO.
    The PA of the CEO forwarded an email sent to the company (which I was no longer a part of) where the CEO tried to justify the mandates. Maybe he got some pushback…
    The classic line, “WE,re mandating the vaccine not because we don’d care for you but because we care too much for you” or some such drivel.
    I thanked him for caring for me so much as he trampled over my human rights.
    No reply of course.
    This failure of leadership is endemic in Australia if not everywhere. The people will work it out slowly and I have noticed that most people ALREADY know but will not act until the majority have turned.
    Here’s a primer for the missionaries out there.

    Thanks NV for your good work and Liz you passed.

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    • lemmiwinks · 13 Days Ago

      My word, what a read that was. I can see his plan working well in the US due to the relatively low vaccine uptake but here I’m not so optimistic. As a prisoner of the state of Victoria you’ve probably witnessed firsthand what happens when you stand up (tradies tear gassed and shot with rubber bullets while other civilians cheer the police on from their balconies).

      I predict that it’ll get worse, possibly a lot worse, before it gets better.

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      • Kilgore Trout · 12 Days Ago

        Agree. I am stocking up on food as we speak.


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