Where’s Dong?

Dong Jingwei is kind of a big deal. He’s a vice minister of State Security, essentially China’s head spy catcher, and he’s also said to be close to Pooh Bear, having assisted in his rise to the top.

RedState and Chinese-language blogs are reporting that in February this year he defected to the United States’ Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and handed over a treasure trove of material. Some mainstream sites have now picked up the story.

Here’s what he’s said to have provided, via RedState:

– Early pathogenic studies of the virus we now know as SARS-CoV-2

– Models of predicted COVID-19 spread and damage to the US and the world

– Financial records detailing which exact organizations and governments funded the research on SARS-CoV-2 and other biological warfare research

– Names of US citizens who provide intel to China

– Names of Chinese spies working in the US or attending US universities

– Financial records showing US businessmen and public officials who’ve received money from the Chinese government

– Details of meetings US government officials had (perhaps unwittingly) with Chinese spies and members of Russia’s SVR

– How the Chinese government gained access to a CIA communications system, leading to the death of dozens of Chinese people who were working with the CIA

These revelations are said to be behind the Biden handlers’ change of tune on the lab leak theory and the sidelining of Fauci and others in the US who supported the Wuhan lab.

With the release of his name, the South China Morning Post (SCMP) has responded with an article containing fresh statements from Dong in a seminar in which he warns Chinese intelligence agencies to watch out for dastardly foreign spies.

While the article does not mention the rumours about his defection, it is clearly meant to show that he is still in China and 100% on board with the CCP. It contains no new photos or video of him. These days, anything emanating from the SCMP can be taken as the official CCP line.

There are two ways of looking at this.

The first, pushed by wumao, is that the whole thing was CCP misinformation campaign intended to discredit Western media organs foolish enough to fall for it. High ranked sources release false info, gullible media sources run with it, the SCMP reveals the truth and RedState et al have egg all over their faces.

That seems a little far-fetched. Perhaps they were hoping to embarrass Fox and the Daily Mail, which stayed out of the matter until the last twenty-four hours and only reported developments as rumour. It seems like a costly exercise just to get at RedState. And, since when are journalists embarrassed by publishing misinformation, on either side? Have the CCP’s America-watchers been asleep for the past eight years?

The other possibility is even more remarkable:

If Dong’s defection is true, that means he specifically chose to defect to the DIA rather than to the CIA, presumably because the material he holds reveals how the latter is highly compromised. This would also explain why the DIA kept the defection secret for months from the CIA, FBI and probably all other agencies.

The don’t trust them.

It’s all deep state stuff but the DIA seems less murky than the rest.

Keep in mind that the Pentagon and CIA are already fighting a proxy war against each other – a real war, with bullets – by backing different players in the Middle East. Defense supports the Kurds while the CIA provides clandestine support to Al Qaida affiliates fighting Assad – and perhaps to ISIS too, directly or through Israeli or Saudi agencies.

In other words, the United States is already fighting a proxy Civil War.

It is also interesting that leaks from the DIA have been reaching such unusual outlets: RedState and Chinese opposition blogs. Not Fox. Certainly not CNN, BBC and so on, most of whom have not yet mentioned the story at all.

This could be because the DIA knows the dirt they have on Chinese infiltration across the West is dangerous and that a lot of people would very much like to make it disappear. Perhaps they saw the need to release the main points to the public via sympathetic outlets in order to make it harder for their enemies to memory-hole it completely.

It’s hard to imagine a purge taking place given that the ‘Biden Administration’ (we need a better name for it) is in charge. For starters, a lot of the material apparently relates to Hunter Biden and plenty no doubt also demonstrates Chinese cash-taking by various people who supported Biden’s rise to power, if you can call it that.

Perhaps a patriot in the DIA will cut the Gordian Knot in WikiLeaks style, by a massive release of raw data online. That would set the cat among the pigeons, and be an extremely dangerous thing to do.

We like to think there might still be heroes in the upper echelons of Western military forces but likely they’ve been rooted out by now.

And a final point: where is Dong and who is protecting him? I’m surprised he dared trust anyone in the United States after Epstein didn’t kill himself.

If Dong is in the US, let’s hope he lasts long enough to achieve some good.


  1. philebersole · June 19

    Significant if true.

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  2. luisman · June 19

    Hard to say who is distributing more fake news, the 3 letter government organisations or 3 letter media organisations. Especially related to COVID, I don’t trust anyone anymore, as the cesspool of corruption is several trillions of Dollars deep.
    And what IF, it became absolutely clear that China was to blame for the virus? All the western countries wade knee deep in chinese money. For most big companies, China is their largest market. And all the western countries (and many others) have accumulated debt which would become impossible to serve, if the interest rates would go up again. That’s why they’ll ramp up inflation and hope to be able to control it. They just need the rest of the world to follow suit (great reset).

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  3. Gunner Q · June 20

    I very doubt that he defected to US government. We’re so completely compromised by China, openly and covertly, that he’d be signing his own death warrant with nothing to gain except a data dump. At best, he could skip a step and defect to Israel. The other owner of the ‘Murican Empire.

    It’s possible that he feels shamed by what happened at Wuhan Lab and is committing elaborate suicide, but that still doesn’t explain his reported behavior.


    • Wolf · June 20

      Israel would not be stupid enough to accept him.
      That there are not droves of defectors from the US and European countries defecting in droves is amazing. Soviets defected over less. An utterly docile lot of cows.


      • dickycone · June 20

        Defecting to where, do you mean? To China or Russia? Then you’d be at their mercy for the rest of your life, and even if you’re a Sinophile or Russophile, you’re not one of them and at the end of the day, spending the rest of your life in China or Russia isn’t all that appealing.

        I know it’s stylish to go around saying that the US is a totalitarian third world hellhole, but if you’ve ever actually lived in a real totalitarian state or third world country, you know life here is still pretty good. It’s not like it was in the 1950s anymore, i.e. the most prosperous society in the history of mankind, but in a relative sense life here is great. Last time I checked we were still getting millions of legal and illegal immigrants coming to stay annually. Why would they bother if life here weren’t significantly better than were they came from.


        • Wolf · June 21

          Maybe living in many countries has made me especially adaptable, but I think most European men could find themselves at home in Russia. Snowden has done well.

          The US is totalitarian with its population indoctrinated and gaslit from the cradle to the grave through education, media, and entertainment. Whenever I talk to my relatives in America, I’m struck by how guarded they are about everything, and every year it gets worse. It’s even worse in the UK. I remember the anecdote from Jonathan Bowden about his walk in the woods with a friend. Even in that setting, the friend looked around nervously before allowing himself to speak. To be fair, it was out of an instinct well-honed in the UK police state.

          You’re right that the US affords a more materially comfortable lifestyle than most of the rest of the world. That’s the point. They are willing to suffer debasement, constant attacks, and collaborate in their own dispossession in order to be able to buy a few more gadgets.

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          • dickycone · June 22

            Decent points, but committing to spending the rest of your life in Russia or China with no way to go back home, your assets frozen and under the watch of the FSB or whatever the Chinese equivalent is for the rest of your life is not an easy step to take. Not sure if you’ve ever been to Russia, but outside of St. Pete and Moscow life is very hard. I’ve never been to China, but Nik’s comments on life there don’t make it sound very appealing for a foreigner, and at the end of the day an American can never be Chinese no matter how hard he tries.

            You’re likely right that most of the Americans who are currently astounding you by not buying a one-way ticket to Moscow or Beijing largely agree with globohomo, which is very sad. But even a badthinking dissident right guy like me can see that life here is very good, because I’ve lived in countries where it is not.

            I’m guessing you’re British, and I don’t know if the same applies to the UK. I get the impression that the US is by far the best of the Anglo countries, but aside from a few weeks here and there in Canada on business trips years ago, I’ve never been to another English-speaking country, so I can’t say for sure.


            • Wolf · June 23

              The globohomo countries provide material comfort for basic workers (e.g. truck drivers, HR ladies). I’m referring to more capable people with something to defect with. Guys like the Lockheed workers forced to undergo humiliation or hardcore military personnel. You’re overrating how good globohomo countries are for upper middle class people. Most would do fine in middle income countries. I’ve been out of the globohomo region for more than a decade and my quality of life is a lot better outside those crumbling cesspools. To be fair my income comes from online businesses but a lot of stuff simply works better in these countries with newer infrastructure and less hostile government. I also know many people from middle income countries (e.g. tech graduate students) who no longer choose to remain in the US. The culture outside globohomo is far healthier, women are thin and respectful, families are closer, people are nicer, and you can walk the city.

              But yes, defecting would still be tough for fat, lazy, sportsbook addicts and involve risk and that’s the point. The not-anti-White coalition (they can’t even properly be said to be pro-White). movement is soft as fuck utterly lacking in conviction. They will continue to give away until they get genocided or simply become a deracinated irrelevant 10% subpopulation. Snowden one of the last heroes.

              “It may be inferred again that the present movement for women’s rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent, Northern conservatism. This [Northern conservatism] is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. This pretended salt hath utterly lost its savor: wherewith shall it be salted? Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom. It always when about to enter a protest very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it essays to stop, that its “bark is worse than its bite,” and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent role of resistance: The only practical purpose which it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to keep it “in wind,” and to prevent its becoming pursy and lazy, from having nothing to whip.”
              ― Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897


  4. philebersole · June 20

    Of course the other possibility is that he is a plant.


    • Gunner Q · June 21

      Dong is too senior. Too many secrets are inside his head. They’d want somebody junior enough to know what he’s supposed to and nothing extra.


  5. dickycone · June 20

    I honestly thought this was going to be about the Chinese exchange student character in Sixteen Candles, but then I guess the title would have been “Dong, where is my automobile?”
    It does seem kind of incredible that such a high level CCP official would just up and defect, but based on the facts you lay out it sounds like it could be true. Is there any recent precedent for this kind of thing? If he’s really in the US I wonder if he’ll ever make a public appearance. What about his family in China? Is is likely that the CCP will go after them?
    Interesting comments about the de facto civil war going on in the US power structure, too.


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