You just believe what you’ve been told

Yes, you do.

You.

You do.

I know that you think you’re all independent-minded and free-thinking and open to new evidence and all that.  Don’t you?

But you’re not.

At most, during your lifetime, your views will only modify a little bit.  Switch from Democrats to Republicans?  Whoop-di-doo.  Become more free-market, then less so?  Like those mites that live on your eyelids, this move is too small to see without a microscope.

I know you still don’t believe me.  You’re thinking, this guy’s full of shit.  And while you’re reading this you’re going to have a mental debate with me, thinking you’ll win.

You’ll lose.

Okay, ready?  Climb aboard the Real World Express!  Toot-toot!  No hanging your arms out the side or you’ll lose them and have to eke out a living doing gay amputee porn.

Let’s start with a few questions about your existing beliefs.  Please play along.  No sneaky skipping forward.  If you jump ahead, I will know.  And I will be very disappointed in you.

Religion

What religion are you?  Most of you said some sort of Christian, probably Protestant or Catholic, a few non-denominational, and a large minority said atheist or non-religious.  I don’t think there’d be many others but I am frequently surprised.  As for Muslims, if any of them come here I might as well draw a dotted line on my neck.

On the topic of religion, what do you think those with different beliefs?

Keep those answers in you head as we continue.

Political Beliefs

Do you support a major or minor political party in your country?  Does it lean conservative, progressive, or is it moderate?  If not, where approximately do your beliefs lie?

Moral Values

Do you support slavery and/or serfdom?  How about genocide?  Any strong opinions about rape?  Human sacrifice?  Invasion and colonization?  Also please bring to mind your views on cannibalism, identical twins and monogamy.  Take your time, don’t just go with the first thing that pops into your head.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Now let’s go back over each of these areas and consider just how independent your views really are.

Religion reconsidered

It goes without saying that if you had been born in South America in 1400, you would not be a Christian.  But let’s take this further: had you been born a Saudi today you would almost certainly be a Muslim.  If you were born in Japan you would probably say you have ‘no religion’ but actually pray at temples and shrines on traditional occasions.  And so on.  80% of you belong to the religion of your ancestors.  Around 10% of converts will have converted to a similar religion, most likely a monotheistic one.  None of you believe in the Aztec, Norse or Greek gods.  Do you?

As for your views on those with different beliefs: in Medieval Europe, pretty much everyone agreed most enthusiastically that heretics ought to be burned.  Do you think that?  If not, do you imagine that if you’d been born back then you’d be the sole guy protesting against it, or at least looking on with disapproving consternation?  Just you, and no one else?  If so, that would make you a pretty unique person.  Let’s see if you get even more unique.

Politics reconsidered

Did any of you say you were a card-carrying communist?  No?  That’s funny, because if you’d were anti-communist in the Soviet Union circa 1960 that would make you quite unusual, even if you were quiet about it.  Not at all unheard of, but certainly rare.  And you do think you’re a rare one.

Did you say you were a Nazi?  No?  Hmm, around 1936 quite a lot of Germans supported the Nazis.  No doubt if you were around then you would have been a member of the underground opposition.  Just like you would have been against the Commies in the USSR.  All of you.  Goodness I get a lot of unique visitors here at the People’s Blog.

Any monarchists?  Not constitutional monarchists, I mean the full monty – powers bestowed by God and all that.  Not many, hey?  But back again the Middle Ages pretty much everyone was, and you no doubt think you would have been, yet again, the exception.

Morality reconsidered

This is my favourite one.

For most of history and in most places (especially once agriculture had taken hold), slavery and serfdom were the norm.  Indian America, China, Europe, Africa, the Middle East, Asia . . . pretty much everywhere.  And the funny thing is, most people thought nothing of it.

Hang on, you say!  We awesome white people abolished it out in our societies!  Well yes we did, and let’s give ourselves a pat on the back and a quick tug, but please remember that no one thought there was anything inherently wrong with slavery until a small minority started going on about it in Europe and North America in the 1700s.  Actually I think Rabelais may have mentioned it so perhaps we may go back to the 1600s.  Before that, diddly-squat.

For a while in late Rome it was a form of virtue-signaling to grant manumission to loyal slaves, but there seemed to be no overall philosophy opposing slavery as an institution.  And in other times and places – nothing.  Not a peep in China.  Nothing in the Arab world until the Euros got on to it.  And in Africa – well, it still happens now.

So perhaps you’re thinking that if you’d been alive back then, you’d have been against it.  My dear little snowflake!  You wouldn’t have molested your Roman slave-girls.  You wouldn’t have enriched your farm with captured enemies.  You wouldn’t have built great monuments in the jungle with captive labour.  Oh, no.

No doubt my reader is not thinking that at all.  He’s already on to my fairly transparent trick so he’s changed strategy – he’s dreaming up a new defense!  Fine.  We’ll come to it.  But in the meantime let me continue my fun, though I’ll speed it up a bit.

Genocide was quite normal in ancient times.  Read the Bible if you don’t believe me.  Conquered people were slaughtered or enslaved, or a bit of both, as a matter of course.  So you would have been the only one telling your king, oi, don’t do that.  Genocide’s bad, mmkay?  And while we’re at it, you would have been the only one protesting against mass rape of captured populations, too.

Let’s race though the rest.  You would have opposed invasion and colonization, even though it was normal at all times, from New Zealand to the Great Plains.  You would have been the only Aztec to take a knee against human sacrifice, the only Papua New Guinean to start a Twitter hashtag campaign against cannibalism, the only Ibo to put on a badge that says ‘Twin Lives Matter’, and the only medieval Arab to say, one wife ought to be enough for anyone.

You know the answer to all these annoying questions is ‘no’, so you’ve gone on to this: I am different because I’m worldlier and more educated.  Had those primitive people shared my advantages maybe they would indeed have spoken out against those things.

But we must differentiate here between ‘education’ and ‘indoctrination’.  I deliberately left out factual beliefs such as the shape of the world and the existence of microorganisms because it is quite natural that such knowledge progresses over time, and changes in human views here show us nothing interesting about ourselves.

It would be a mistake, however, to think that our current, Western world view is a result of moral progress and enlightenment.  Morality always feels right, and if it has recently changed it feels like it just changed for the better, but moral rules are always twisting around, randomly mutating and sometimes succeeding in enabling a group to thrive. There will be different morals in the future that you will abhor – you have already seen some of then in utero – and those future people will call it ‘progress’.  Present shibboleths will eventually be discarded.

If you were born in the future you would be socialized into holding those future beliefs just as surely as if you’d been born in ancient Mongolia or in modern-day Qatar.

At most, your views will only shift a little from those that are normal in your own time and place. A quirk here, a modification there, but mostly you’ll inherit the entire culture, swallow it whole, and never even notice you’ve done it, let alone burp.

Because that would be rude.

11 comments

  1. Someone · March 23, 2019

    That’s one of the things that disgust about the modernist SJW and cucks these days. Only a historical illiterate would apply our present day values to those in the past. Personally, most people like being slaves anyway, so I would not mind having a plantation with slaves and the color or race would be important. And maybe I could breed my own workforce overtime as well.

    One thing here in th states I laugh at is the tripe that big meanie YT came along and smashed those pure nature loving in peace ‘native Americans’. A total joke if you read anything La Salle, Lewis and Clark, and others had to say. Women were property and they were more than happy to genocide neighbors they were competing with for resources. The Comanches were nothing until the Spaniard introduced the horse. And who is to say that if YT never appeared the redman would have eventually gotten a hair up his ass and start pulling resources from the earth and create an armada to travel east and do the same.

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    • Nikolai Vladivostok · March 23, 2019

      ‘A hair up his ass’? We say, ‘A rocket up his arse.’ But yeah, it could have happened. There are plenty of pairs of nations that have invaded each other over the millenia: Persia/Greece, France/Britain, China/Mongolia/Manchuria. It might still happen in the case of some of Europe’s former colonies.

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      • dickycone · March 24, 2019

        Supposedly the big reason the puritans and other Anglos of the day managed to get a foothold in the east coast of North America was that the natives had recently been devastated by an outbreak of plague, not that they were inherently weak or unable to defends themselves. Who knows what would have happened otherwise, or if it had occurred to the Aztecs and Incas to use the wheel for anything other than children’s toys.

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  2. Random Comment · March 23, 2019

    Religion: only one correct, and I don’t even follow it. Very few do, like in the hundreds worldwide, I’d guess. No need to kill heretics because most of us are heretics already, and the killing will be done for us. Nobody gets out alive.

    Politics: I don’t vote. Monarchy sounds very good to me.

    Slavery: There’s nothing wrong with slavery. I don’t really “support” it, as in I have no urgent need to change society as it is, but slavery is a fact of life. The fact that it is hidden these days just deludes people from reality, thinking slavery doesn’t exist, when it is really the fabric of existence.

    Genocide: It’s wrong. But what is one man going to do about it?

    Rape: Also wrong. But like slavery, what is one person going to do about it when it happens to them? Avoid it if you can, make the best of it if you can’t.

    Human sacrifice: Also wrong. This is the signal of the late stage of a nation or culture’s decline. It’s all over America already, but nobody calls it that. It’s called abortion now. A human sacrifice to the god of human selfishness.

    Invasion and colonization: nothing wrong with it. It will happen one way or another when one nation receives favour and another loses it.

    Cannibalism: Unwise.

    Identical twins: Not sure what’s special about it.

    Monogamy: it is the heavenly ideal that humans usually fail to imitate.

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    • Nikolai Vladivostok · March 23, 2019

      I’ll just respond to two things here.
      Slavery: yes, most people seem to seek out voluntary ways of enslaving themselves. On the other hand, I live in one of the few countries where hard slavery still exists and those in it don’t like it at all. I suspect this is because they know it had been wiped out in most places, which makes it less psychologically acceptable to them.
      Twins: the Igbo used to kill them after birth. At least, I read this in ‘Things Fall Apart’. Good book, my review is here:
      https://sovietmen.wordpress.com/2018/09/18/things-come-together/

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  3. luisman · March 23, 2019

    Reblogged this on Nicht-Linke Blogs.

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  4. luisman · March 23, 2019

    You believe what you’ve been told, because that’s how you survive. Traditionally you’d have been killed or starved if you were not properly adapted to the society you were born into. Only our recent ‘free’ societies allowed dissidents to survive and thrive. Former dissidents had to provide a real and measurable benefit in order to succeed and survive, and even if they did, they usually were killed (Socrates, Gallileo, etc.pp.). The strange thing these days is, that dissidents, who turn over the applecart, just to create chaos w/o any benefits, are revered.

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    • Nikolai Vladivostok · March 23, 2019

      Yes, these days comforming means to go along with ever more extreme critiques of our society. I don’t think this adaption will work out in the long run.

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  5. dickycone · March 24, 2019

    “if you’d were anti-communist in the Soviet Union circa 1960 that would make you quite unusual, even if you were quiet about it.”

    -Based on my experience living in the former USSR and talking to people who were alive back then, this likely isn’t true. Percentage of people who truly thought communism was great was probably similar to the percentage of current year white Americans who sincerely believe that white people are responsible for all of black people’s problems. There are certainly a lot of them, and those who disagree don’t express that openly very often because they know what they have to say to keep their jobs, but its debateable whether the true believers are actually a majority.

    “Any monarchists? Not constitutional monarchists, I mean the full monty – powers bestowed by God and all that. Not many, hey?”

    -I’d be willing to hear a monarchist out, even better if he believes in divine right of kings. Democracy seems less and less ideal the older I get an the more I see.

    “For most of history and in most places (especially once agriculture had taken hold), slavery and serfdom were the norm. Indian America, China, Europe, Africa, the Middle East, Asia . . . pretty much everywhere. And the funny thing is, most people thought nothing of it.”

    -True. The Bible and Koran never question slavery as an institution.

    “no one thought there was anything inherently wrong with slavery until a small minority started going on about it in Europe and North America in the 1700s. Actually I think Rabelais may have mentioned it so perhaps we may go back to the 1600s. Before that, diddly-squat.”

    -I thought certain 18th century popes were the first to openly oppose slavery, but if not they were surely among the earliest. Regardless, it’s still alive and well, if usually under different names. Always will be, until we’re all slaves of Jesus. Human nature and all.

    “Genocide was quite normal in ancient times. Read the Bible if you don’t believe me.”

    -Interesting apology for the book of Joshua that I read only recently: the Canaanites were Molech worshippers who worshipped their god through burning their children alive, and God had had enough of it, hence He sent the Israelites to utterly destroy them, kill every last man, woman, child, and animal and destroy all traces of their culture. The Israelites disobeyed and let some of the women, presumably the younger, hotter ones, live. Through these women, the cult of Molech survived and eventually brought the same wrath of God down on the Israelites. I like this explanation.

    “Let’s race though the rest. You would have opposed invasion and colonization, even though it was normal at all times, from New Zealand to the Great Plains.”

    -I’ve come to the conclusion that the best you can do here in Satan’s kingdom until Jesus comes back is follow the example of Augustus: “Where possible I treated conquered people with mercy.”

    “It would be a mistake, however, to think that our current, Western world view is a result of moral progress and enlightenment.”

    Agreed. This is why I’m a reactionary, after all.

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